Traditional Striptease - Page 14

ecdysiastic · January 5th, 2011, 10:17 PM

What a fantastic striptease show this thread is becoming. Surely traditional striptease, whether knickers on or knickers off, is vintage erotica at its most alluring and thrilling! High art or low sleaze, and what fascinating things have been said on that subject, just get 'em off girls!

Those Get 'em off clips are fantastic. So much of the dialogue comes straight out of the Pictorial History of Striptease book posted earlier. Word for word. And yes there was the Soho sleaze. The lady with the long dress certainly had lots to get off and - oh yes - there they were, bare rears and a special treat for the bushlovers!!

Now the delights of LouLou, what a turn on the slow handclap is (strip! strip! strip!) and just look at the enthusiasm with which she throws off her clothes. if only she'd have gone just a little bit further, maybe next time I look...

My all time favourite for striptease is The Stripper, thrilling to hear so many different, incredibly sleazy versions. Not that the other old time music doesn't get the audience going, just that one says it all!

As I said, knickers off or knickers on, striptease or striptease, get 'em off girls! (That means keep 'em coming).

Perhaps those strip club season tickets are going to make a come back after all!

GallifreyMan · January 6th, 2011, 05:26 PM

Found a couple of new clips. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umlAntv9zLo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5OCt6n1kjs

ecdysiastic · January 6th, 2011, 08:35 PM

More great clips!

Miss Creamy peaches certainly has a vintage wardrobe - look at the size of her bra and panties. The more that's hidden the more there is to tease off.

Classic striptease comes in so many different ways. You don't need to be wearing very much at all - there was a nude performer who mimed a strip and because the music was real traditional brassy stuff and because she was a born actress it was fantastic, though you don't want too many acts like that because the pleasure is in the tease and in the strip. Those who doubt it can be done without clothes ought to search for "unique soap striptease" and take a peek!

But lets go back to that dingy sleazy Soho club, furtively buy a ticket at the door and sidle down the rickety staircase into the gloom, hoping that there's no act under way because we want the full suspense. Good, the tired old curtains are firmly shut and - wonderful - there's two empty seats in the front row!

A bell rings and the speakers blare into life, bellowing out one of the old classics. The curtains creak open and there at the back of the stage is a tiny lady, tiny in her gorgeous gleaming cocoa coloured skin, in her buttercup yellow high heels and in her matching buttercup yellow coloured bra and panties. Like her, her undies are tiny, mostly string really. How can you spend eight minutes teasingly stripping out of those, we want big bras and knickers for maximum tease.

Hold on. Without hesitation, the lady, now beaming, walks to the front of the stage and drops to her knees right up close to the middle of the front row. Still on the stage, though barely, she starts to move her breasts from side to side, then squeezes them to make a wonderful cleavage. It must be good because she too is admiring it, looking down the gorge that has suddenly appeared. Yellow bra on cocoa skin, that cleavage is the darkest most mysterious place on earth right now and everybody is straining to look down it. Slowly, gently, sinuously, she rocks on her knees and offers just a flash of skin here, just a little bit there, millimetre by millimetre. The tension is building unbearably as she drops just one strap, then the other and then, just as the music builds to a climax, out pops the first jet black nipple, then the other, both so surprisingly big.

With a judder, this is a sleazy dive after all, the speakers pick up the next brassy golden oldie and the lady, topless by now, attends to the business of her panties. That's a misnomer, they're little more than a g-string. She seems to be having problems as she straightens up. Still on her knees, though, after close study, she puzzles out how the first side string might come down a little bit, oh yes, like that! Now a little bit more down her hip, before its time to slide onto her side to deal with the other string. She looks at it so closely then everyone else bends forward to do the same, then she smiles, problem solved, and swiftly slides it down. Her bush is as jet black as her nipples, then she sits down and opens her legs...

Two minutes of the act left as the now nude lady rolls over to make sure nobody misses out on her oh so round, oh so fantastically deep bare rear. All fours now, tits dangling and shaking, jet black nipples still as hard as when she started. And she's still right at the front of the stage, close to us. Why on earth do those curtains have to close just as she's on her back again, legs in the air?

If only every act was as good as this one they would have been sold out night after night! All she wore was those heels, that tiny, tiny bra and that tiny g-string. But if your undies are buttercup yellow and your skin gleams in its cocoa coloured splendour, who needs much in the way of clothes to start your own striptease tradition?

Of course, that was then (1980's) and this is now. The memory lasts...

Keep the clips coming, please! More, more!

GallifreyMan · January 6th, 2011, 10:16 PM

**Greenman** · January 7th, 2011, 04:48 PM

As good as these clips are, and I would like to thank all those who contributed to this thread over the past year and continue to take an interest, I feel we are getting away from the main theme which is traditional striptease in which the girl ends up naked and showing all or nearly all-whereas burlesque combines dance with a sort of elegance. Real stripping is not meant to be elegant or classy, its supposed to look and feel sleazy(because that is what it used to be in pubs, clubs etc) Burlesque is staged, its choreographed and the women don't have to be that good looking(there are some real horrors around that do burlesque you wish hadn't). A real stripper won't bother about co-ordination, what she looks like or where she performed as long as the money was good-normally a whipround was done beforehand and no doubt a few copious glasses of whisky for 'dutch courage'. I think we should be careful not to blur the two mediums, either that or change the title of this thread to 'Traditional Striptease vs Burlesque-that way both of those genres could be posted for comparison. Anyway I am sure you all have your own opinions, I'm just a bluff old traditionalist-although I might add I never went into pubs that much and most didn't have strippers anyway. Anyone who has seen the film 'The Night They Raided Minskys' will know the one thing strippers in Burlesque cannot do-show ANY naked flesh thats not covered. Its the only thing that makes it acceptable even for the West End of London(once renowned for nudity on stages)

I tell you one thing that puts me off these performances the wolf-like howling from the crowd/audience its like one of those Tex Avery cartoons when a wolf goes through a routine of his eyes popping out of his head, drooling into his drink, his tongue unfolds like a carpet and steam comes out of his ears-I imagine the same each time I hear that kind of audience

ecdysiastic · January 7th, 2011, 09:12 PM

Fantastic clips! The advert one features the popular idea of a stripper, pity about the ending.

Starting with that gloved arm coming out from behind the spot lit curtain, Tali De Mar (the one before the last one listed a couple of posts back) next shows a leg before parting the curtains and slinking on, dressed in long red dress and black feather boa. Throw in that sleazy jazzy music and you have a good idea of what I take to mean traditional striptease!

Then the change of rhythm and she's off, strutting and and twirling, like a real striptease artiste (not just a stripper) should. Gloves off with style above her head, high kicking to show stockings and suspenders, dress off, down to corset and tassels, tremendous big red tassels going round and round in style. Even as the music slides into The Stripper. nothing much more is going to happen - this is burlesque right? Must be right, there's even a pole!

She works those tassels mercilessly and, as ever with The Stripper, it's great. The music grinds and bumps on, and predictably she discards her red corset, from behind looking great in her g-string, before sliding to the stage and giving the audience some leg work. Then shes on her knees, and with the aide of a helper, off come her tassels! To the climax of The Stripper, she abandons her tassels completely.

The music changes and she peels off her short stockings. Now dressed only in her g-string, the tassel-less Tali peels her g-string down her bum. It's an old striptease tradition but she has an even smaller g-string on underneath, oh! This one stays on and if you want to know want the topless lady does with her ice cream, you'll have to watch it.

Of course we don't get to see her nips, they're blocked. But there they are, naughty naked tits and this is burlesque!

if you want to study an invisible g-string, take a look at Jezebel Express and what she's wearing in the G-string song. A big lady, not your average performer, but she lets it all hang out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96EKe0ZaPNY

Perhaps its a matter of what the various styles of stylishly undressing on stage are called. Search for the former choreographer at the Raymond Revuebar, Gerard Simi, and have a look at Razzle Dazzle Burlesque on his site. or if you want nude burlesque, seek out Reveal Burlesque by Wasabassco. As the tartily dressed french reporter asked in the film Erotica, what exactly is striptease?

Sure, the wolf calls from the audience are not as I remember things, but the traditional Soho strip scene in the 1980s, though by then losing its theatricality fast, was nude all the way (well at the end of each act it was). Maybe I can remember some more outstanding acts...

But it certainly was at least one kind of striptease tradition.

keep 'em coming! Fantastic!

GallifreyMan · January 8th, 2011, 01:52 PM

In reply to Greenman's message....I apologise if the quality of the clips I posted were not what was wanted on this thread, but I think that what you are looking for, in regards to those style/tone of those clips/footage, are near impossible to find.

I only posted the clips originally, because, in my mind, the tone of the thread was being further and further removed. It seemed as though the thread was drying up, and so, I tried to revive it.

Apologies if my clips were not correct, and, as such, will not post anymore.

Regards, and best of luck with the thread.

pub · January 8th, 2011, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GallifreyMan

In reply to Greenman's message....I apologise if the quality of the clips I posted were not what was wanted on this thread, but I think that what you are looking for, in regards to those style/tone of those clips/footage, are near impossible to find.

I only posted the clips originally, because, in my mind, the tone of the thread was being further and further removed. It seemed as though the thread was drying up, and so, I tried to revive it.

Apologies if my clips were not correct, and, as such, will not post anymore.

Regards, and best of luck with the thread.

I'm sure Greenman didn't intend you to stop contributing - I think we all value good contributions, it's what makes VEF the best site around. I think he was suggesting that maybe if the posts are 'off topic', in other words don't quite meet the criteria stated by the originator, the best thing to do is start a new thread e.g. Burlesque Stripping (Having of course checked that no thread already exists that adequately covers the topic). That way we all get the best of both worlds.

All the best

Pub

**mashedpotato** · January 8th, 2011, 03:00 PM

I agree with pub GallifreyMan- a BIG hat's off to you and the other recent burlesque/striptease contributions...and the passionate debate they've sparked....there's nothing beats people properly engaging and getting stuck into the subject...in the classic VEF tradition. No doubt Greenman will chip in...it looks like he's doing the usual magic behind the scenes graft to make sure that the threads are tidy and easy to follow....without someone doing this, they could get very busy.

Please don't stop your posts.....they'll find a natural new VEF thread home and be enjoyed by half the world!!!!!

Onwards and upwards. Mashed

Quote:

Originally Posted by GallifreyMan

In reply to Greenman's message....I apologise if the quality of the clips I posted were not what was wanted on this thread, but I think that what you are looking for, in regards to those style/tone of those clips/footage, are near impossible to find.

I only posted the clips originally, because, in my mind, the tone of the thread was being further and further removed. It seemed as though the thread was drying up, and so, I tried to revive it.

Apologies if my clips were not correct, and, as such, will not post anymore.

Regards, and best of luck with the thread.

ecdysiastic · January 8th, 2011, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mashedpotato

As a variation on some recently viewed chat (70s pub strippers...), can anyone help out with any decent quality pics featuring 'traditional' striptease performances...preferably from the 80s/90s and featuring girls on stage in the spotlight with a shimmering/velvet backdrop.....the more glamour and feather boas the better!

Hold it folks! Traditional striptease comes in many sizes and shapes, just like the performers! No one is right as what is traditional and what isn't (leaving aside modern variants such as pole dancing or whatever the latest fad might be called).

Surely traditional striptease is all about a lady on stage teasing and delighting her audience by slowly removing her clothes to the accompaniment of fire-lighting music?

I certainly can't speak for mashedpotato, who started this thread, but a look at his original words and pictures as quoted suggests that there's plenty of room for big time glitz and glamour (call it burlesque or call it striptease) maybe or maybe not ending in full nudity as well as for the sleazier version where the theatrical values are nil and the nudity, well, let's say it leaves nothing to the imagination at all.

I think Greenman is right to see traditional striptease as sleazy clubs and pub shows, something that is so down to the basics that it can be massively uplifting. And as Pub says, he certainly doesn't suggest that anyone should stop contributing.

I think GalifreyMan is right in his idea of traditional striptease too. He has done a tremendous service by posting as many clips as he has, both of the "tartier" byways of striptease and of the glamour and the glitz of big time burlesque. I greatly appreciate what he has been doing and very much hope he still has many. many more clips to add - and will continue to do so! More! More!

Different places, different times, different traditions. After all, another tradition altogether is the Dance of the Seven Veils, perhaps where striptease itself started!

In the end surely what matters is what we like - high art, classy costume and slow tease, or sleazy basement, torn stockings and everything off before you can blink (or in my case, practically all of it).

So what we want, girls, is -

get 'em off!

(BTW thanks too to all others who have put stuff on the thread - keep 'em coming).

Further BTW I had to log in again after writing this and I see that mashedpotato himself has posted a reply. I am sending my post just as I wrote it (like a slow striptease, it takes time to get it all done!!!!).

January 5th, 2011, 10:17 PM	#131
ecdysiastic Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 199 Thanks: 3,213 Thanked 3,803 Times in 290 Posts	Strip! Strip! Strip! What a fantastic striptease show this thread is becoming. Surely traditional striptease, whether knickers on or knickers off, is vintage erotica at its most alluring and thrilling! High art or low sleaze, and what fascinating things have been said on that subject, just get 'em off girls! Those Get 'em off clips are fantastic. So much of the dialogue comes straight out of the Pictorial History of Striptease book posted earlier. Word for word. And yes there was the Soho sleaze. The lady with the long dress certainly had lots to get off and - oh yes - there they were, bare rears and a special treat for the bushlovers!! Now the delights of LouLou, what a turn on the slow handclap is (strip! strip! strip!) and just look at the enthusiasm with which she throws off her clothes. if only she'd have gone just a little bit further, maybe next time I look... My all time favourite for striptease is The Stripper, thrilling to hear so many different, incredibly sleazy versions. Not that the other old time music doesn't get the audience going, just that one says it all! As I said, knickers off or knickers on, striptease or striptease, get 'em off girls! (That means keep 'em coming). Perhaps those strip club season tickets are going to make a come back after all!

January 6th, 2011, 08:35 PM	#133
ecdysiastic Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 199 Thanks: 3,213 Thanked 3,803 Times in 290 Posts	Buttercup yellow More great clips! Miss Creamy peaches certainly has a vintage wardrobe - look at the size of her bra and panties. The more that's hidden the more there is to tease off. Classic striptease comes in so many different ways. You don't need to be wearing very much at all - there was a nude performer who mimed a strip and because the music was real traditional brassy stuff and because she was a born actress it was fantastic, though you don't want too many acts like that because the pleasure is in the tease and in the strip. Those who doubt it can be done without clothes ought to search for "unique soap striptease" and take a peek! But lets go back to that dingy sleazy Soho club, furtively buy a ticket at the door and sidle down the rickety staircase into the gloom, hoping that there's no act under way because we want the full suspense. Good, the tired old curtains are firmly shut and - wonderful - there's two empty seats in the front row! A bell rings and the speakers blare into life, bellowing out one of the old classics. The curtains creak open and there at the back of the stage is a tiny lady, tiny in her gorgeous gleaming cocoa coloured skin, in her buttercup yellow high heels and in her matching buttercup yellow coloured bra and panties. Like her, her undies are tiny, mostly string really. How can you spend eight minutes teasingly stripping out of those, we want big bras and knickers for maximum tease. Hold on. Without hesitation, the lady, now beaming, walks to the front of the stage and drops to her knees right up close to the middle of the front row. Still on the stage, though barely, she starts to move her breasts from side to side, then squeezes them to make a wonderful cleavage. It must be good because she too is admiring it, looking down the gorge that has suddenly appeared. Yellow bra on cocoa skin, that cleavage is the darkest most mysterious place on earth right now and everybody is straining to look down it. Slowly, gently, sinuously, she rocks on her knees and offers just a flash of skin here, just a little bit there, millimetre by millimetre. The tension is building unbearably as she drops just one strap, then the other and then, just as the music builds to a climax, out pops the first jet black nipple, then the other, both so surprisingly big. With a judder, this is a sleazy dive after all, the speakers pick up the next brassy golden oldie and the lady, topless by now, attends to the business of her panties. That's a misnomer, they're little more than a g-string. She seems to be having problems as she straightens up. Still on her knees, though, after close study, she puzzles out how the first side string might come down a little bit, oh yes, like that! Now a little bit more down her hip, before its time to slide onto her side to deal with the other string. She looks at it so closely then everyone else bends forward to do the same, then she smiles, problem solved, and swiftly slides it down. Her bush is as jet black as her nipples, then she sits down and opens her legs... Two minutes of the act left as the now nude lady rolls over to make sure nobody misses out on her oh so round, oh so fantastically deep bare rear. All fours now, tits dangling and shaking, jet black nipples still as hard as when she started. And she's still right at the front of the stage, close to us. Why on earth do those curtains have to close just as she's on her back again, legs in the air? If only every act was as good as this one they would have been sold out night after night! All she wore was those heels, that tiny, tiny bra and that tiny g-string. But if your undies are buttercup yellow and your skin gleams in its cocoa coloured splendour, who needs much in the way of clothes to start your own striptease tradition? Of course, that was then (1980's) and this is now. The memory lasts... Keep the clips coming, please! More, more!

January 7th, 2011, 04:48 PM	#135
Greenman Live Legend of VEF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Underground lair somewhere in the world Posts: 20,353 Thanks: 30,936 Thanked 383,516 Times in 19,356 Posts	As good as these clips are, and I would like to thank all those who contributed to this thread over the past year and continue to take an interest, I feel we are getting away from the main theme which is traditional striptease in which the girl ends up naked and showing all or nearly all-whereas burlesque combines dance with a sort of elegance. Real stripping is not meant to be elegant or classy, its supposed to look and feel sleazy(because that is what it used to be in pubs, clubs etc) Burlesque is staged, its choreographed and the women don't have to be that good looking(there are some real horrors around that do burlesque you wish hadn't). A real stripper won't bother about co-ordination, what she looks like or where she performed as long as the money was good-normally a whipround was done beforehand and no doubt a few copious glasses of whisky for 'dutch courage'. I think we should be careful not to blur the two mediums, either that or change the title of this thread to 'Traditional Striptease vs Burlesque-that way both of those genres could be posted for comparison. Anyway I am sure you all have your own opinions, I'm just a bluff old traditionalist-although I might add I never went into pubs that much and most didn't have strippers anyway. Anyone who has seen the film 'The Night They Raided Minskys' will know the one thing strippers in Burlesque cannot do-show ANY naked flesh thats not covered. Its the only thing that makes it acceptable even for the West End of London(once renowned for nudity on stages) I tell you one thing that puts me off these performances the wolf-like howling from the crowd/audience its like one of those Tex Avery cartoons when a wolf goes through a routine of his eyes popping out of his head, drooling into his drink, his tongue unfolds like a carpet and steam comes out of his ears-I imagine the same each time I hear that kind of audience __________________ There was only ONE Greenman, and you accepted no substitutes! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Rest in peace MaxJoker-you will be sorely missed. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 20,000: Milestone reached!

January 7th, 2011, 09:12 PM	#136
ecdysiastic Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 199 Thanks: 3,213 Thanked 3,803 Times in 290 Posts	Trarditional striptease Fantastic clips! The advert one features the popular idea of a stripper, pity about the ending. Starting with that gloved arm coming out from behind the spot lit curtain, Tali De Mar (the one before the last one listed a couple of posts back) next shows a leg before parting the curtains and slinking on, dressed in long red dress and black feather boa. Throw in that sleazy jazzy music and you have a good idea of what I take to mean traditional striptease! Then the change of rhythm and she's off, strutting and and twirling, like a real striptease artiste (not just a stripper) should. Gloves off with style above her head, high kicking to show stockings and suspenders, dress off, down to corset and tassels, tremendous big red tassels going round and round in style. Even as the music slides into The Stripper. nothing much more is going to happen - this is burlesque right? Must be right, there's even a pole! She works those tassels mercilessly and, as ever with The Stripper, it's great. The music grinds and bumps on, and predictably she discards her red corset, from behind looking great in her g-string, before sliding to the stage and giving the audience some leg work. Then shes on her knees, and with the aide of a helper, off come her tassels! To the climax of The Stripper, she abandons her tassels completely. The music changes and she peels off her short stockings. Now dressed only in her g-string, the tassel-less Tali peels her g-string down her bum. It's an old striptease tradition but she has an even smaller g-string on underneath, oh! This one stays on and if you want to know want the topless lady does with her ice cream, you'll have to watch it. Of course we don't get to see her nips, they're blocked. But there they are, naughty naked tits and this is burlesque! if you want to study an invisible g-string, take a look at Jezebel Express and what she's wearing in the G-string song. A big lady, not your average performer, but she lets it all hang out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96EKe0ZaPNY Perhaps its a matter of what the various styles of stylishly undressing on stage are called. Search for the former choreographer at the Raymond Revuebar, Gerard Simi, and have a look at Razzle Dazzle Burlesque on his site. or if you want nude burlesque, seek out Reveal Burlesque by Wasabassco. As the tartily dressed french reporter asked in the film Erotica, what exactly is striptease? Sure, the wolf calls from the audience are not as I remember things, but the traditional Soho strip scene in the 1980s, though by then losing its theatricality fast, was nude all the way (well at the end of each act it was). Maybe I can remember some more outstanding acts... But it certainly was at least one kind of striptease tradition. keep 'em coming! Fantastic!

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January 6th, 2011, 05:26 PM	#132
GallifreyMan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 179 Thanks: 939 Thanked 1,863 Times in 155 Posts	Found a couple of new clips. Enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umlAntv9zLo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5OCt6n1kjs

January 6th, 2011, 10:16 PM	#134
GallifreyMan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 179 Thanks: 939 Thanked 1,863 Times in 155 Posts	Okay my friend Ecdysiastic, some more clips...enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1JTCMcQzuU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX-5EqRcwr4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7YjV2TV3SA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKenPTRIjxI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN74DL5XFxU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeJbj_B55ZA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDOkZBekEBA (Banned ad. Comedy.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag_92YsasaM (compilation routines.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD4lcldi3ls http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-xFySQkpXQ

January 8th, 2011, 01:52 PM	#137
GallifreyMan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 179 Thanks: 939 Thanked 1,863 Times in 155 Posts	In reply to Greenman's message....I apologise if the quality of the clips I posted were not what was wanted on this thread, but I think that what you are looking for, in regards to those style/tone of those clips/footage, are near impossible to find. I only posted the clips originally, because, in my mind, the tone of the thread was being further and further removed. It seemed as though the thread was drying up, and so, I tried to revive it. Apologies if my clips were not correct, and, as such, will not post anymore. Regards, and best of luck with the thread.