America

[stagliano]

Originally Posted by stardust2003

I think a lot of people envied the Americans in the post World War 2 era.... ie the 50s.
But wot happened ? with my ear to the ground I sense an increasing unease in America, a rising anger and frustration.

Many Americans seem to feel that they are already living in a fascist state.... as though that by dismantling the Nazi fascist states in Europe , the American Government and the CIA had learned all the fascist tricks................ concentration camps, mind control etc... and the state is ready to use them on the American population.

The easy going, laid back American cop seems to be morphing into a masked member of a military style swot team.......... surveillance cameras are going up in every city and town in America.
Homeland Security imposes endless rules and restrictions on the freedom of the individual.

I wonder, is the American dream turning into the American nightmare ?

GREED. plain and simple

read "the century of the self". it's all there.
this is old. this isn't some post war phenomenon, it's been in the works for some time.

[LusciousLarry]

Originally Posted by hslc

As a lover of History, ... from a few hundred colonies on the edge of a vast wildnerness to a super power in 200 odd years. .

Just out of curiosity what history have you been studying? I was under the impression that the United States of America started out as thirteen colonies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_original_colonies

[hslc]

My gramer was outLL, i ment a few hundred colonists.

[billybunter]

Originally Posted by blueballsdc

I have guns and ammunition.
I have knives.
I have swords.
I have axes.
I have bows & arrows.
I have enough food and drink to last me a couple of months.

I guess that makes me a weirdo survivalist.

Are you a community worker by any chance?

I have candles and matches. A wind up radio, a load of kitchen knives that are very sharp. A load of scouts badges, including a 90' swimming badge. A map a compass and a fire striker. In other words i'm doomed.

[blueballsdc]

Originally Posted by billybunter

Are you a community worker by any chance?

I have candles and matches. A wind up radio, a load of kitchen knives that are very sharp. A load of scouts badges, including a 90' swimming badge. A map a compass and a fire striker. In other words i'm doomed.

Oh I have plenty of candles and matches too and a wind up radio and plenty of camping gear. I also know how to kill and dress game and cook it up for dinner. I also know how to make beer and wine.

I'm going to make somebody a good wife some day.


If the zombie apocalypse doesn't get us first.

[MaxJoker]

Originally Posted by hslc

A land for the poor, that morphed in to a nation.

Don`t you mean a land of mostly welcoming trusting proud tribes that lived alongside nature, who were then over time driven off that fertile land into the dry scrub , countlessly betrayed by progressive governments and massacred in despicable manners.

Not that i`m seeking to besmirch Americans as i like Americans.

Just saying.

What am i saying

I suppose that this ability we have to dehumanise our fellow man and casually dispatch them when expediency calls never ceases to amaze and trouble me.

Was it so impossible to abide by those treaties and live side by side as brothers

[P37]

on the statue of liberty one of the lines engraved there is :-

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

now it should read not too poor , not too tired no huddleing pickpockets! and breathing , certainly that'll be $15.00 extra

[donny1]

Originally Posted by P37

on the statue of liberty one of the lines engraved there is :-

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

now it should read not too poor , not too tired no huddleing pickpockets! and breathing , certainly that'll be $15.00 extra

Give me your hungry, your tired your poor I'll piss on 'em
that's what the Statue of Bigotry says
Your poor huddled masses, let's club 'em to death
and get it over with and just dump 'em on the boulevard

Lou Reed - Dirty Boulevard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z3TPwOT31g

[hslc]

Sorry gents, yes the tribes were betrayed, and maybe the message on the statue should be changed, but i still belleve America was a dream/utopia that has been perverted by greed and evil men.Sorry maybe thats an idealists view but thats me.

[MaxJoker]

Originally Posted by hslc

Sorry gents, yes the tribes were betrayed, and maybe the message on the statue should be changed, but i still belleve America was a dream/utopia that has been perverted by greed and evil men.Sorry maybe thats an idealists view but thats me.

Not an idealists view at all, as what nation hasn`t been allowed to be perverted and corrupted by our own inactions.