America

[rotobott]

Originally Posted by palo5

Maybe we should team up and learn to count

Net Immigration.

For USA it's easy, take the total population, deduct native american indians, and you have your answer.

But that's what makes America great

[palo5]

Originally Posted by Norbert84

Does it make sense to talk about immigrants with so many non-Slavic ethnic groups in Russia?

No, it doesn't

But there are international comparisons, so we do it anyway

[stardust2003]

Immigration is turning America into a 3rd world country,
but then the same thing is happening in Europe too...
people always want to move to where the money and prosperity is.

[Brecht]

Originally Posted by stardust2003

Immigration is turning America into a 3rd world country,
but then the same thing is happening in Europe too...
people always want to move to where the money and prosperity is.

They're heading to the countries who've been exploiting them before.

[palo5]

No one wants to go where they are unaccepted, stardust

It's very risky

[otokonomidori]

Originally Posted by Norbert84

They're heading to the countries who've been exploiting them before.

That'll save us having to travel to exploit them in the future.

[billybunter]

Originally Posted by fleetwood77

That'll save us having to travel to exploit them in the future.

What like the England invading Scotland fleets

[stardust2003]

America was hot in the 60s, California, the Beach Boys ... surf boards.
Doris Day was still making movies
Elvis had a home there....

All you hear about California today is the massive debts, the elec
blackouts ... the street gangs... Mexican immigration
the occupy protests..... radiation floating over from Japan ....

Still, Cal has produced Katy Perry so things cant be all that bad !




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[savage560]

Originally Posted by billybunter

Having visited America several times I was amazed at how "un free" it really is. It is nearing a police state. And Europe will follow suit unless we are careful.

Very true Billy,we have police sobriety roadblock check points,phone tapping,& internet monitoring by the government.The repubs want you to be born then after that say to hell with you,make it so a woman cannot choose her right of abortion.We are very far behind Europeans in National H/C .The politicians tell the Red Necks here its bad & socialist, un-American, you're a pinko commie if you want it.Yet the same politicos who tell them this ,mainly the repulsive rebublicans, get thier H/C from the US government,hypocrites.I have relatives in Canada & Europe & none come here for "our" version of health care.Why would they its rated #36 in the world ,behind every European country that has it.But we are ahead of Slovenia,what, is that something to brag about?

Our millionaires are paying about half the tax rate as people on the poverty line!The repubs brainwash the incest damaged Hillbillies & tell them its good & they'll be millionaires one day too, ya right I got a bridge to sell them!They buy that BS, idiots!They say it creates jobs by these "JOb Creators", & yes it does.By millionaires paying the lowest taxe rates in the industrialized world here in the US,its result is tons of jobs that pay .29 cents an hour in Asia!They invest a lot of money by this savings too,thus like Nit Wit Romney & Ghengis Kahnrich ,not here, but in the Caymen Islands so they pay no US taxes on investments.In other words it creates jobs & income everywhere BUT HERE!The repub front runners for president want to reduce the elites taxes even more!

We have tons of wellfare here ,mostly for our richest 2% of the populace!Our medical,judicial, system is tilted immeasurably in the favor of your wealth.To support our global empire we tax the commoners,& let the rich off.Like in VietNam war as in all wars America fought since WWII, the overwhelming majority of troops & burdon of $ comes from poor & lower middle-class.A startling fact Pres. Obama wants to cut millitary spending by 1.6%, a mere drop in the bucket,& the repubs lable him as week on defence ,hell we are still ouspending the next 18 nations combined with this meager reduction!We have a Navy larger than the next 13 nations combined, who have blue water navies in the world,yet they want more warships built & we're building them at an alarming rate of 11 per year!We are the millitary of the world corporations!

These are reasons the middle class is almost non-existant here:we can't give our people H/C,along with un-protected borders,& no loyalty of American corp. to keep jobs here.They blame unions, thats reduced to only 9% of the workforce,& we allways give up concessions, so the Corp CEO can make 1500 times the ave. worker here!We have the greedist corp elite here ,they are the highest payed in the world exponetially,whether they perform or not!In Japan they have a law that the corp. CEOs cannot make more than 18x the ave. worker of a corp. he's at, we should have that here!12 years of Bushies, Reaganomics,& Mr. "I am not a crook" policies have bankrupted this country, & reduced our freedoms!

[savage560]

Originally Posted by Norbert84

Does it make sense to talk about immigrants with so many non-Slavic ethnic groups in Russia? Finno-Ugric peoples, Turkic peoples, descendants of Mongols like the Kalmyks etc. There was this linguist called Nikolaj Trubeckoj who had this Eurasian theory of Russians being a mix of Slavs and all those groups towards the East. It was actually Russia coming to those "immigrants" since the 1630ies/40ies.

Look at America, the Hillbillies ,& the Mayflowerers all claim they have a lot of Indian blood,does that make them mongols too?The Slavs ,Russians Serbs ,Czechs,Bulgars, Cros,etc. have the closest related language group in Europe,& the people have a similar "Slavic" look.They don't look asian, & if their language has kept the test of time they must have a lot of etnicity in common.And of course the "Slavic" gene m423 , found in Slav inhabited lands.